I find the idea of rolling, failing, and cashing in resources to push past the failure much more satisfying, franklyвЂ“a вЂњget out of jail freeвЂќ card, of sorts (which is how the Fate Points I mentioned before work). ThatвЂ™s not a kind of risk-reward I, personally, enjoy. And that doing so can still lead to failure, unless youвЂ™re spending so much that youвЂ™ll quickly run out. My issue is specifically the way that you spend resources before the roll in the Cyper System used by Torment. Hell, even the classic Vancian Magic system in D&D and all its many imitators, where your wizards only get so many spell slots each day. Fate points in Fate Core, Action Points in D&D 4th Ed, etc., are all awesome limited resource systems. Limited resources donвЂ™t really bother me at all. Sorry, I really hate to drag the whole thread down with another in-depth examination of my personal issues with the direction Cook took in Numenera, The Strange, etc., but :) I like the system, but IвЂ™m not that familiar with other modern RPG systems. Also thereвЂ™s no reason that a failed roll can not advance the story in some way. I donвЂ™t have a problem with that idea (which seems pretty common to me in RPGs). I think the idea is that they are the limited resource you have to manage through the adventure, and force you to camp up to restore them. Spending resources upfront for failable rolls but affecting your short-term viability by depleting difficult-to-reacquire-mid-combat resources in a вЂњgambleвЂќ scenario really just irks me. Failing rolls is a natural part of RPGs, and sometimes thereвЂ™s even a risk-reward of trying a really big, awesome power thatвЂ™s less accurate or whatever. since spending enough to guarantee success will run through your resources too quickly to be viable) bugs me a lot. Spending resources upfront for failable rolls (esp. So when I say I dislike the Cyper SystemвЂ™s core mechanic, IвЂ™m specifically talking about the Effort pool management feature that you like and dislikes. Man, Monte Cook Games, does every fuckinвЂ™ word in your game need to have two meanings?). The base game system the Numenera tabletop game runs off of is called the Cypher System, and Torment is a digital adaptation of many of its rules (including cyphers, the little bits of consumable, uh, well, numenera that you can use for buffs. Sorry, the digital game here is affecting my terminology use. In tabletop you have to eat the loss but in the game you can just abuse the quick load. I too wish the checks were a little more strict though, like in Age of Decadence for example. One of the more original systems IвЂ™ve seen in RPGs lately. WhatвЂ™s wrong with the Cypher system? In the game they are essentially consumables - pretty powerful too, considering the sparseness of combat encounters.ДЄs for Effort, I love it.

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